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00:00:06 Ben Skipper

Hello and welcome to the agents lounge. This podcast is the third of a series of podcasts in which I'm joined by Doctor Philip Blood. Otherwise, there's a CJ4 good afternoon.

00:00:23 Philip Blood

Good afternoon, Ben. Hey.

00:00:29 Ben Skipper

Just a quick thanks to everyone who's been listening to these podcasts. The previous sort of two as well as the the latest. All that I've done with Neil Pointer.

00:00:40 Ben Skipper

Just from the onset, the we we will this is quite a heavy topic we'll be discussing today. If you're here for sort of light hearted, this isn't really the particular episode this is we're going to be discussing what's going in the continuous situation in the Ukraine using the information that is contemporaneous to ourselves and is freely available.

00:01:03 Ben Skipper

We are using our knowledge as best we can to have.

00:01:08 Ben Skipper

Give people an understanding of what's going on on the ground. No one could be 100% certain, even if we were on the ground.

00:01:16 Ben Skipper

The intelligence that we would get on the ground is that as recent or as sort of details is local, we can't do that. So we're going to try our best, but what we are going to continue looking at is this Russian way of war.

00:01:34 Ben Skipper

I feel, I mean I I don't know why people so shocked about it because, you know, we were having this discussion where we just beforehand. So this is part of the course, this is how they do things.

00:01:44 Philip Blood

I do, but I think.

00:01:45 Philip Blood

Once.

00:01:46 Philip Blood

That's actually happened if we were to look at it in terms of what's happened in, you know, historically imagine this time.

00:01:57 Philip Blood

Say 40 years ago, if this had happened, there'd be thousands and thousands.

00:02:02 Philip Blood

Of analysts who had studied the intimate INS and outs of the Russian Soviet Army, the Red Army then.

00:02:11 Philip Blood

Who would be telling us?

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Or informing us of embryo aspects of this operation.

00:02:20 Philip Blood

The units, the equipment, the doctrine, the battle plans, the direction, the terrain, we we would be overflowed with information.

00:02:34 Philip Blood

Contrast now.

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With a situation where it's very, very difficult to find.

00:02:42 Philip Blood

Experts who have kept up to date, I know there's some good people out there, but when you think when you realise that one of the last books on the Red Army.

00:02:56 Philip Blood

The modern Red Army, the modern Russian army. Sorry, was written in 2016.

00:03:03 Philip Blood

We're actually six years behind.

00:03:07 Philip Blood

When we go to the military balance, we know that's at least a year behind because it's taken so long to compile the information, then go into the book.

00:03:16 Philip Blood

And then we have the problem of trying to guesstimate what's actually happening.

00:03:22 Philip Blood

With the Russian army at this stage.

00:03:25 Philip Blood

And so.

00:03:27 Philip Blood

Contrast the period of the Cold War to today and we've lost all of that information.

00:03:34 Philip Blood

And we've assumed that the Russians are no longer the enemy.

00:03:39 Philip Blood

And that's.

00:03:41 Philip Blood

That's a huge wake up call for the West that has suddenly gone from being this arrogant. We won the Cold War. We're going to show Iraq and Yugoslavia and Afghanistan and a host of other places. How we do war. We're then going to tell everybody in the world that actually the only way of war from now on in the future is counterinsurgency. We won't need.

00:04:03 Philip Blood

Big arm means we're only going to fight terrorists.

00:04:07 Philip Blood

And along comes this bloke from some.

00:04:10 Philip Blood

I don't know. Extinct Nation who's changed the game. He's turned the world on its head.

00:04:19 Philip Blood

Kicked it around when they say kick kick the can down the road and and and as.

00:04:27 Philip Blood

Has left all these so-called experts.

00:04:32 Philip Blood

A huge amount of egg on their face.

00:04:34 Philip Blood

And while the experts are trying to find.

00:04:40 Philip Blood

Some kind of?

00:04:44 Philip Blood

What would you call it? Projection in which to formulate an analysis?

00:04:50 Philip Blood

We've got this humanitarian crisis developing and nobody understands how that is happening because.

00:04:56 Philip Blood

They're so in tune to the idea that the Western way of war was this ideal.

00:05:02 Philip Blood

Thermopolia type scenario and again Putins came along and said, well, that's all tosh and I'm throwing it in the bin and it have a taste of almost Genghis Khan style warfare and.

00:05:18 Philip Blood

Everybody's reeling the, the, the, the newscasters, the.

00:05:24 Philip Blood

Academic experts, the professional soldiers? NATO.

00:05:30 Philip Blood

USA.

00:05:32 Philip Blood

Everywhere there is utter chaos, they don't know how to read him. They don't know where he's going. They have no concept that this is.

00:05:41 Philip Blood

Anything more than local imperialism?

00:05:46 Philip Blood

And yet hanging over their heads and frightening them to their very socks is the notion that Putin might press a button and we're all a ballistic nuclear war.

00:05:58 Philip Blood

All in the space of what, 6 months? Six months ago. Wasn't he threatening Ukraine? And we were all panicking and everybody was saying no. He won't go because he's just a little Russian with mad ideas.

00:06:11 Philip Blood

And here we are all, all shaking.

00:06:15 Philip Blood

And 10 million.

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Refugees on the roads, I mean.

00:06:20 Philip Blood

Wow.

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I'm.

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I'm staggered.

00:06:25 Ben Skipper

It it has been, I think this will go down in history as one of the biggest.

00:06:30 Ben Skipper

Intelligence failures.

00:06:33 Philip Blood

Of modern times, but it's not like people weren't saying, hey, this guy's.

00:06:39 Philip Blood

A complete and utter lunatic. And if we continue this way, he's going to teach us a lesson. People have been saying that for for 20 years.

00:06:49 Ben Skipper

Absolutely. I think the intelligence failure will come from the top because they didn't listen because as you rightly said, he was one of us. You know that if you look at the close of the 20th century, he was keen to have closer ties with NATO, closer ties, you know, closer to interoperability. He was seen as the he he'd be. He'd made that crossover.

00:07:10 Ben Skipper

Capitalism. Sorry for communism. Capitalism, he was. He was the the archetypical.

00:07:17 Ben Skipper

Communists come good through the power of capitalism. Therefore you know the the political thinking was he was one of us and he's played an absolute blinder.

00:07:25 Ben Skipper

You know, in the way in which he has used, he's obviously used capitalism against itself in some respects and whilst we've been too busy saying what a great chap he is, he's been very busy gaining experience in the the second Rousseau Chechen war, gaining experience.

00:07:43 Ben Skipper

In terms of social media manipulation at home gaining experience.

00:07:48 Ben Skipper

Of warfare in Georgia gaining experience in Aleppo and then, you know, in Syria again, he he played a bit of a blind there because he one of the many reasons were given and he was he, you know, he was fighting the dash. He was strengthening the ties.

00:08:09 Ben Skipper

Between.

00:08:11 Ben Skipper

And it's quite interesting. The the Russian Orthodox faith and the Antiochian Orthodox faith, this of Orthodox Brotherhood. So he strength the position of of faith at home and the Church, of course, are now saying, you know, the author of Church in Russia are now saying, well, you know.

00:08:27 Ben Skipper

Why stop at the Ukraine? We've got the Baltic states, we've got Finland, Poland. They should all be part of this. This greater Russia and.

00:08:36 Ben Skipper

And then of course you got the the ongoing, you know this isn't a new war. The you you know this is the Ukraine, the whole Ukraine sort of conflict started in 2014.

00:08:45 Ben Skipper

And yet.

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See those at the top have been almost oblivious to it because the guy was personable.

00:08:55 Ben Skipper

Because the free market was running rife.

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Because.

00:09:01 Ben Skipper

Russian oligarchs were pouring money through countless places. They were the good guys.

00:09:09 Philip Blood

I've always been a.

00:09:11 Philip Blood

Rightly or wrongly, I've always been a believer that.

00:09:15 Philip Blood

This notion that your first seven years determines what you're going to be for the rest of your life.

00:09:22 Philip Blood

And how you're shaped in that period.

00:09:27 Philip Blood

Generally has shown.

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The kind of person you're going to become and.

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When you're when you've been raised.

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Educated.

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Put in a position of pride.

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Within the Soviet Union.

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And suddenly all of that's taken away from.

00:09:46 Philip Blood

You.

00:09:48 Philip Blood

I don't think anybody quite understands what that means.

00:09:55 Philip Blood

And I think.

00:09:57 Philip Blood

I could imagine.

00:09:59 Philip Blood

If you're a super patriot and I'm assuming he was because he was a top KGB officer.

00:10:07 Philip Blood

The the.

00:10:09 Philip Blood

The the way the West bloated after 1989, with the wall coming down and in 1992 with the collapse of the Soviet Union, I can imagine it left a festering wound.

00:10:24 Philip Blood

That just got worse and worse and worse. And that's not to say that he's what he's doing is forgivable. It's to understand what a nerves going on here, because while we have made this catastrophic intelligence gap like it's worse than the gap, it's a calamity.

00:10:42 Philip Blood

We're good to. We should really look back on all of the, all the horrible, conceited, arrogant writing like that Fukuyama.

00:10:55 Philip Blood

End of history. ********. And then there was all of that other stuff that poured out, right. You know, I I've sat in meetings with some very senior American and British officials and politicians. And they've actually said things like, well, you know, Russia is a broken, busted flush.

00:11:15 Philip Blood

And repeatedly said that you know who worries about the Russians?

00:11:21 Philip Blood

And and look now.

00:11:23 Philip Blood

Look, now I am watching people who claim that Russia was dead, never to be seen again, boasting that they knew that this was going to happen.

00:11:33 Philip Blood

And I've been. I was in the room with one of them when he was telling me that it was the end of Russia.

00:11:39 Philip Blood

And he's now saying he knew all along that this was.

00:11:44 Philip Blood

I'm not going to mention any names but.

00:11:48 Philip Blood

I know who he, you know? Yeah.

00:11:51 Ben Skipper

It it, it is interesting that.

00:11:55 Ben Skipper

A lot of the the observers, talking heads, academics.

00:12:02 Ben Skipper

Have gone from.

00:12:04 Ben Skipper

You say writing off.

00:12:07 Ben Skipper

Russia has a serious political and military entity within the grand scheme of things. I say, almost liking it to a very weakened state. Who should be glad that they had that it gets receives Western interest to all around suddenly.

00:12:24 Ben Skipper

Saying no, actually, we always knew that they were going to do this. That and the other because all the signs were there and I find that disingenuous at best and hideous at worst because.

00:12:34 Ben Skipper

They never went away.

00:12:34 Philip Blood

But if you remember, if if you remember, everybody was saying that the sick man of Europe was Russia.

00:12:41

Hmm.

00:12:43 Philip Blood

And people forget those headlines that the old sick man of Europe, which had been Turkey, was now suddenly being dumped on Russia.

00:12:52 Philip Blood

And there was all those crazy headlines that the Russians have gone mad. They're drinking spirits in the streets because their pension system has broken down.

00:13:04 Philip Blood

And I thought.

00:13:06

Wow.

00:13:08 Philip Blood

You're you're you're laughing at a society that is crumbling inside.

00:13:14 Philip Blood

It's well, the biggest landmass across the globe.

00:13:19 Philip Blood

It's got populations that outweigh any other, and you're actually thinking that this is going to help the future, no?

00:13:29 Philip Blood

No, no, no, no, no. But they continued and they continued and you know, even last year when Putin started this.

00:13:37 Philip Blood

Openly started his Ukrainian thing.

00:13:42 Philip Blood

People just assumed that he was a head case who was going to be settled down and you know, they're pat him on the head because he's only a little blow and then he would poodle off to his kennel and then he'd be he'd be allowed to bark in a year's time.

00:13:55 Philip Blood

And what he's unleashed?

00:14:00 Philip Blood

It's just that he's actually, I mean the most horrific thing here is he's actually shaking.

00:14:08 Philip Blood

The NATO alliance.

00:14:11 Philip Blood

He's shaking.

00:14:13 Philip Blood

Europe.

00:14:16 Philip Blood

He's caused Biden to be rigid in a position of complete confusion.

00:14:25 Philip Blood

And all the while, we're seeing these stories of how great the Ukrainians are, and I hope it's true.

00:14:33 Philip Blood

But unfortunately the red line is getting thicker and thicker and thicker all along that you're all along that Ukrainian border.

00:14:41 Philip Blood

And he's he's digging in for a very long term war with with, I suspect, offensive operations which will crush or intended to crush Ukraine.

00:14:54 Philip Blood

Now somebody's got to pay for that in Western monetary thinking.

00:14:58 Philip Blood

Because not only are we totally unprepared for that as to how to respond, and clearly nobody knows how to respond.

00:15:07 Philip Blood

But also the use of military forces it to actually say we're not going to go to war because he might use a nuclear bomb.

00:15:19 Philip Blood

Literally undermines the whole of the Western European defence system.

00:15:25 Ben Skipper

Yeah, it does. And it also shows a lack of understanding of the version web war.

00:15:31 Ben Skipper

And I know I've said this time and again.

00:15:34 Ben Skipper

But the, you know, the Soviet use of special weapons.

00:15:38 Ben Skipper

Is exceptionally limited, but they're they're not as free and easy, I think, because the American you know, because there was that very relatively sort of.

00:15:48 Ben Skipper

Free use of two nuclear weapons at the end.

00:15:51 Ben Skipper

Of the world.

00:15:51 Ben Skipper

War Two, first of all, yes, definitely. I think there's still some discussion around Nagasaki.

00:15:57 Ben Skipper

And it's it's relevancy. There is this default setting of. We've done it, they're going to do it to us.

00:16:05 Ben Skipper

And I think that was that was really firmed up into the late 60s, uh, well, the 60s and the 70s.

00:16:13 Ben Skipper

Yeah, nobody's actually bothered to to look at Soviet doctrine, understand it. And and that's the fact remains. And this sounds even marbrook that they're more willing to use chemical weapons than they are special nuclear weapons because, you know, as we said before, you drop nuclear weapons, an area and you deny it to everyone, you drop chemical weapons on an area.

00:16:34 Ben Skipper

You tonight's people in that area for a very short period of time and you come in 2472 hours.

00:16:39 Ben Skipper

Sir.

00:16:40 Ben Skipper

It's yours.

00:16:42 Ben Skipper

Because that's.

00:16:42 Philip Blood

Well, he has, he, he. He has actually used gases. We know that in bedlam during the operations and he he used it in Aleppo and I believe he also used it in the Chechen war. But the the whole ethos of the Russian way of war is survived and thrived.

00:17:02 Philip Blood

Which is doesn't matter whether it's chemical or weapons of mass destruction or nuclear war. You use it to the point that you can still survive that.

00:17:13 Philip Blood

And thrive. Meaning you can win.

00:17:17 Philip Blood

That was never a logic in the West. The West always assumed that once the missiles had started, there'd be no world left.

00:17:25 Philip Blood

The Russians say, well, that's a strange calculation because there's an awful lot of spaces where.

00:17:29 Philip Blood

You're going to survive.

00:17:32 Philip Blood

And.

00:17:34 Philip Blood

You know, Nagasaki and Hiroshima didn't pollute the world with massive effect radiation damage. It was in the in the end, although it was a horrific, they were horrific bombings.

00:17:51 Philip Blood

They were confined to that sphere.

00:17:55 Philip Blood

And we know that those two cities are now fairly thriving.

00:18:00 Philip Blood

And so in the Russian logic that you can survive a nuclear war, they had the evidence.

00:18:06 Philip Blood

On their side, the Western security system was all kind of Doctor Strange, strange love, with a touch of Kissinger.

00:18:16 Philip Blood

You know you you you go through a ladder of bombing this and bombing that and weren't you way up until eventually the big bombs are fired out from wherever.

00:18:28 Philip Blood

I'm not sure that the Russians built a a.

00:18:32 Philip Blood

Nuclear weapons of mass destruction system. That was quite so.

00:18:38 Philip Blood

I don't know snakes and ladders ish.

00:18:41 Philip Blood

Theirs was more integrated into the ground level so their troops could.

00:18:46 Philip Blood

Immediately adopt A.

00:18:49 Philip Blood

Tactical weapons of mass destruction approach.

00:18:53 Philip Blood

And you saw that with the chlorine bombs in Aleppo?

00:18:57 Philip Blood

What I thought were just standard chemicals poured out of a helicopter there in flat gallons and gallons of chlorine poured onto civilian.

00:19:09 Philip Blood

Which of course causes.

00:19:11 Philip Blood

An awful lot of horrible burns eye damage.

00:19:16 Philip Blood

Respiratory problems and what have you.

00:19:21 Philip Blood

And to be able to do that in such a short space of time.

00:19:25 Philip Blood

Poses a lot of problems.

00:19:27 Philip Blood

For armed forces, which are not prepared for them.

00:19:32 Philip Blood

And of course, with all of these civilians on the roads now, I mean, if we're talking about 7 million displaced persons on Ukrainian roads, if the Russians start checking out chlorine all over the place, I mean, those numbers are going to double.

00:19:49 Philip Blood

And then we got real problems absorbing.

00:19:53 Philip Blood

That, that mass of refugees into the West. So yeah.

00:19:59 Philip Blood

Uh.

00:20:01 Philip Blood

I can see the weapons of mass destruction of one form or another, chemical or nuclear being used, but not to the extent of launching missiles at London and all of that.

00:20:12 Philip Blood

Stuff.

00:20:14 Philip Blood

You know the problem with the KGB man who wants to be a bully is he's got to have people to bully. And if you kill everybody.

00:20:20 Philip Blood

There's no fun in the world, you know. He needs his. He needs people to bully.

00:20:25 Philip Blood

You don't.

00:20:27 Philip Blood

You know you can push masses of millions of refugees into the arms of the West and frighten them.

00:20:32 Philip Blood

Fright in the West?

00:20:34 Philip Blood

Move accounts of how horrible he is, but he doesn't want to drop bombs on all of those people and kill them all because he.

00:20:42 Philip Blood

You know the dead are no use to it. This this guy is this guy is old KGB logic, which is to use even the enemy.

00:20:52 Philip Blood

The disabled and the old and the female, the women, the children.

00:20:58 Philip Blood

As weapons he you know he's total. He, as I said before, he's this is real Creek. It's a level of warfare. It's a style of it's a form of brutality which we haven't seen in the West for a very, very long time.

00:21:13 Philip Blood

If ever.

00:21:15 Philip Blood

That's the shock.

00:21:19 Ben Skipper

It is.

00:21:21 Philip Blood

I mean, he's dispensing more distraction than Stalin was ever capable of doing.

00:21:26 Philip Blood

I mean, we only have to look at Mariupol.

00:21:29 Philip Blood

What he's done to marry a poll in less than 3 weeks.

00:21:32 Philip Blood

Is staggering.

00:21:35 Philip Blood

That that is a city the size of Liverpool has one guy said on Twitter.

00:21:41 Philip Blood

That has to be rebuilt to make it function well.

00:21:46 Philip Blood

You don't do that overnight. If he does that to 10 cities, we've got.

00:21:52 Philip Blood

A staggering problem.

00:21:55 Philip Blood

Staggering problem.

00:21:57 Philip Blood

That will burn through economies.

00:22:00 Philip Blood

Help burn through Western society for a very long time. That's the humanitarian issue and that's why I have a huge concern with the NATO response because it's all right defending if it if you kept arming the Ukrainians, so they fight to the death, that's fine. If we're never having to go back into the Ukraine.

00:22:21 Philip Blood

Afterwards, because if it turns into a desert of horror and Andy wears Aleppo and Grozny, then nobody cares.

00:22:28 Philip Blood

But if we've got to put all these people back into their into their communities.

00:22:34 Philip Blood

That means building and to rebuild all of those cities, if that's his plan.

00:22:42 Philip Blood

Well, I mean, we are into into a world of pain that nobody can conceive. Even. I mean, I've started to look at.

00:22:52 Philip Blood

The British response to the starving Germans and the homeless Germans are in 1945, the winter of 4546.

00:23:03 Philip Blood

And trying to look after just 17 million people.

00:23:08 Philip Blood

Was horrendous. I mean, we were talking about rations down to 850 a person, people virtually on the starvation level, homelessness causing no end of problems because of the medical systems collapsing now. OK, it's fine to say that, you know, the West isn't a war zone.

00:23:28 Philip Blood

And it becomes a war zone when large numbers of people suddenly philtre into your cities, and the cities are no longer capable of sustaining the volume of refugees. I mean 2,000,000 Syrian refugees came to to Germany as a consequence of Merkel's decision 20.

00:23:47 Philip Blood

OK.

00:23:49 Philip Blood

But that was over an extended period of time by the state. But by the time that decision was made, little places had been completely overrun, like in the South of Italy and in Greece, and there had to be a relief, because otherwise these places would have just turned into.

00:24:09 Philip Blood

Into horror shows.

00:24:12 Philip Blood

So she did the humanitarian and let these let Syrian refugees and many other Muslim and African refugees to come into Germany. And that was a noble act.

00:24:26 Philip Blood

The problem is that that even those numbers were a struggle and integration has not been easy. Still isn't.

00:24:36 Philip Blood

Now.

00:24:38 Philip Blood

Germany in the situation it is under threat with its energy crisis, you've got places like the artile, which has still not recovered from the storms of last year. You've got communities struggling with the post COVID period.

00:24:55 Philip Blood

Then you're going to apply with all the unemployment and the social benefits that are trying to keep the sustain the existing economy, and then you're gonna put what another 2,000,000, three million refugees through the system.

00:25:08 Philip Blood

Well, that's going to put some serious pain on the political system.

00:25:15 Philip Blood

And I, you know, I keep saying to people there's things happening in German politics that below the threshold, if people start to scratch the surface isn't very nice. I'm not going to go into it at.

00:25:28 Philip Blood

This stage but.

00:25:29 Philip Blood

You know the social infrastructures start to bend and at some point and it's part of the Russian way of war.

00:25:36 Philip Blood

At some point you put so much pressure on the system, it breaks.

00:25:42 Philip Blood

And that's not just military. That's political. And and I'm thinking here of the way he put pressure on a state, you know, Georgia.

00:25:52 Philip Blood

Applied so much pressure, he didn't even have to fight. He just did it in a ceasefire and kept the tanks rolling.

00:25:59 Philip Blood

And by the time that had finished, he was in and he was in control.

00:26:04 Philip Blood

And the same with what happened in the Crimea. You know, we're going to take the Crimea. So here we go and.

00:26:13 Philip Blood

We're not respond to those things. We haven't responded to those and we don't know the consequences of what's actually happened because we've never created a situation to respond to the scale of destruction that's happening.

00:26:28 Philip Blood

And of course, that brings us to why I wrote that paper on mechanised genocide.

00:26:36 Ben Skipper

And and that's a very interesting paper.

00:26:40 Ben Skipper

We there is a there, there is a link.

00:26:44 Ben Skipper

2 Phillips Phil's paper academia.edu and it is. It is worthwhile reading because it sort of takes us.

00:26:55 Ben Skipper

Sort.

00:26:55 Ben Skipper

Of almost smoothly into the into the next plan, you know, what is he doing? And and his main tool is, of course, the artillery. You know, this has been spoken of.

00:27:03 Ben Skipper

Cool.

00:27:06 Ben Skipper

And looking at what's going on on the ground at the moment, we've sort of seen a couple of maps and they're out there. Just have a look. Al Jazeera has reasonably regular updates, so reasonably accurate. And these echo Phil's comments from the first episode of this series where he said that we, you know, you're going to see.

00:27:25 Ben Skipper

A A horseshoe shape appear in terms of.

00:27:30 Philip Blood

The Anaconda.

00:27:32 Ben Skipper

Yeah, the Anaconda plan, which is if.

00:27:35 Ben Skipper

Which is, which is where he's going.

00:27:40 Ben Skipper

It's starting to form up, isn't it?

00:27:41 Philip Blood

Well, the thing the thing with the Anaconda plan is it's slow digestion, slow, grinding, rolling offensives all along the line. You have this horseshoe or the inverted sea as you call it, which is pointing westwards.

00:27:57 Philip Blood

And all along our frontier, several things are happening. He's stretching reserves of the Ukrainian army. He's forcing lodgements and.

00:28:10 Philip Blood

Large areas of build up to attract the Ukrainian army to attack him and at the same time he's punching out, prodding away and punching out at the same time. So in the South you've got an advance, but behind all of that, is this what I've called mechanised genocide? And I I wrote the paper.

00:28:29 Philip Blood

Not for military experts as much As for civilians to try and explain to people what's actually happening, because it struck me.

00:28:37 Philip Blood

That with all this analogies of the World War 2 and and all finished wars and all the rest of that tedious junk, it there needed to be.

00:28:50 Philip Blood

An explanation for the for people as to why the Russians had changed their way of war, methodology and thinking their their doctrines and how things how the classical elements of Russian army were being redirected to the modern war and.

00:29:10 Philip Blood

I wrote the paper with a view to explaining that in.

00:29:15 Philip Blood

Not condescendingly layman terms, but trying to do that because if I think if you use too much military language you lose people.

00:29:22 Philip Blood

And if you.

00:29:23 Philip Blood

If you don't put enough military language in the military, experts think you're some kind of loser, and the the point. The point that I was trying to say is.

00:29:34 Philip Blood

Is it it? Forget all the detail of whether it's a missile launch or God knows what else. The point of the matter is. Where are the guns pointing where the missiles being fired at?

00:29:46 Philip Blood

Where are the shells landing? That's the issue. If they were fired at to control the Ukrainian army and flatten them in the old traditional way that they did when the Red Army was fighting the German army, they'd be they'd be taking out the artillery they'd be taking out the command centres. They'd be taking out the.

00:30:06 Philip Blood

The reserves, as they're building up, they'd be taking out the the supply centres in just rigorous.

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